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Gonna be fun to read this.


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Damn, Murphy laying down the law!!

"Right before the Packers announced LaFleur as their new head coach, the source close to the team says Murphy called Rodgers to tell him who they were going with. He didn't ask for permission—he told him who the choice was. There was a brief pause on the other end of the phone before Rodgers eventually spoke. Murphy made it clear that Rodgers would need to accept coaching. "😉on't be the problem," he told him. "😉on't be the problem.""


This is kind of validating how Raji was one to lead.

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#3
No real “shock” in that article. It just proves what most of us thought all along.
So many chances to win Super Bowls wasted.
Better coaching could have made a huge difference.
That’s what is most frustrating.
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Eventually, word leaked that McCarthy, the one calling plays on game day, was up in his office getting a massage during those meetings.


Mike and Robert Kraft....both getting rubs when they shouldn't have.
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#5
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Damn, Murphy laying down the law!!

"Right before the Packers announced LaFleur as their new head coach, the source close to the team says Murphy called Rodgers to tell him who they were going with. He didn't ask for permission—he told him who the choice was. There was a brief pause on the other end of the phone before Rodgers eventually spoke. Murphy made it clear that Rodgers would need to accept coaching. "😉on't be the problem," he told him. "😉on't be the problem.""


This is kind of validating how Raji was one to lead.



McCarthy was the OC in Frisco.
How the hell can Rodgers blame him for not being picked?
Owner-GM-HC.......then OC

I guess Rodgers has been nothing but a Diva since day 1.
Kind of sad.
Murphy lays down the law
About 2 years to late.

As long as he comes out smelling like a rose, everything is just A-OK

What's Murphy going to do when Aaron decides he knows more than Lefluer?

Aarons contract Murphy ok'd doesn't give The Packers much leverage.

Congratulations Mark!

You pulled it off

Now you better hope to hell Rodgers decides he wants to play.

The difference between Brady and Rodgers.
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#6
That was quite the read.

It reads away like a hit piece for the first 90% of the story. The only one with the slightest bit of nuance is Ryan Grant.

I fully believe that McCarthy got apathetic. I also fully believe that Rodgers isn't the easiest to work with. I also believe that if you structure your entire article around hear-say and have a buffoon like Finley (yes, still bitter) as one of your main sources, your credibility goes down a bit.

To then finally write that it's not as black and white as you yourself have been stating for 80% of the article is total BS.

And to then follow it up about the front office getting power hungry off of good results, Policy the puppet master angling for more football power...

If this would be an objective view of a franchise that runs like the Packers, both on and off the field, I'm wondering what kind of shithole a franchise like Buffalo must be. The Bills are probably run by feces flinging monkeys.

Again, I believe there were some big behind the scenes problems and I don't think a guy like Rodgers makes it easy on rookies, new coaches or anyone, but this sounds awfully sensationalist.
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McCarthy rarely fined or benched or sent messages to players and paid the price almost every season—never more so than in the game, the moment, that'll define him in the eyes of many Packers fans.



Aaron may be a diva and/or a mental case, but it was on Mike to manage that. Mike's biggest problem is a complete lack of understanding of sports psychology. Sounds like it was worse than I thought.
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#8
Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

McCarthy was the OC in Frisco.
How the hell can Rodgers blame him for not being picked?
Owner-GM-HC.......then OC



So you truly believe that an OC has no say at all in who gets picked? I thought it was common knowledge that Mike was involved in picking Smith and preferred him over Rodgers. I think a lot of teams did and that you're right in saying that it shouldn't bother Rodgers that much.

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I guess Rodgers has been nothing but a Diva since day 1.
Kind of sad.
Murphy lays down the law
About 2 years to late.



So what was the solution two years ago then? Kick Mike out after a 10-6, divisional round season? Great way to set yourself up for failure. Especially with the group of coaches that was still available at that point. Maybe half a year too late. I can agree on that, hesitantly.

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As long as he comes out smelling like a rose, everything is just A-OK

What's Murphy going to do when Aaron decides he knows more than Lefluer?



Pure speculation.

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Aarons contract Murphy ok'd doesn't give The Packers much leverage.



So what's the alternative? Letting Aaron walk? Franchise QBs don't sign 2 year deals with barely any guarantees.

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Congratulations Mark!

You pulled it off

Now you better hope to hell Rodgers decides he wants to play.

The difference between Brady and Rodgers.
LEADERSHIP! TEAM PLAYER!



I've seen Brady shout at coaches and receivers when things go wrong. This exact same bullshit we're getting now was all the talk last year, but then about Bill and Brady. Bill was fed up with Brady, Tom is angry because his quack-docter can't come to the facility anymore, Belichick would like nothing more than to get a divorce from his QB et cetera.

The difference between Brady and Rodgers? A coach who evolves and still has it.

These elite QBs will be diva's. They always have been. But let's put it like this. McCarthy got fired. The Jets took Adam Gase over him and the Browns (about 96% Packers front office) didn't even interview him.

How long do you think Bill would last if he got fired right at this point? Jerry Jones might even go as far as firing Jason Garrett for him.
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Dunne doesn't write in Green Bay anymore, correct? Interesting it took someone no longer reliant upon access to the team. I guess that means it wasn't a leak?

Then again he apparently he got a key quote from a phone call between Aaron and Murphy.

Nagler says he can tell who some of these anonymous players are, because those players have said the same thing to him.

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It really felt like the last few seasons McCarthy didn't really care about being head coach and just wanted to be the offensive coordinator. If half the stuff in here about Mike McCarthy is true then it was definitely time for him to go. The part about him essentially not giving a single shit about the defense is really bad. He talked in that recent article about coordinating the team but apparently to him the team consisted of 11 players.

As far as the stuff about Rodgers, if it's coming from somewhere besides Finley/Jennings I'll pay attention, otherwise who gives a shit about what those two have to say about it.

A lot of people were surprised when Mike got fired earlier this year but it really wasn't surprising because teams fire their offensive coordinators all the friggin time at all points in a season and especially so if they aren't meshing with their HOF QB. I originially looked at it like all GB did this year was fire their offensive coordinator but they fired the HC too because McCarthy started sucking at that job as well.
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How many times can they go back to the well with Finely and Jennings? If you want unbiased opinions how bout asking folks who don't have a vendetta against Rodgers (along with not asking any of his good bros)? Ryan Grant probably provided the most authentic look into what really goes on.
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#12
Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

So you truly believe that an OC has no say at all in who gets picked? I thought it was common knowledge that Mike was involved in picking Smith and preferred him over Rodgers. I think a lot of teams did and that you're right in saying that it shouldn't bother Rodgers that much.



So what was the solution two years ago then? Kick Mike out after a 10-6, divisional round season? Great way to set yourself up for failure. Especially with the group of coaches that was still available at that point. Maybe half a year too late. I can agree on that, hesitantly.



Pure speculation.



So what's the alternative? Letting Aaron walk? Franchise QBs don't sign 2 year deals with barely any guarantees.



I've seen Brady shout at coaches and receivers when things go wrong. This exact same bullshit we're getting now was all the talk last year, but then about Bill and Brady. Bill was fed up with Brady, Tom is angry because his quack-docter can't come to the facility anymore, Belichick would like nothing more than to get a divorce from his QB et cetera.

The difference between Brady and Rodgers? A coach who evolves and still has it.

These elite QBs will be diva's. They always have been. But let's put it like this. McCarthy got fired. The Jets took Adam Gase over him and the Browns (about 96% Packers front office) didn't even interview him.

How long do you think Bill would last if he got fired right at this point? Jerry Jones might even go as far as firing Jason Garrett for him.



You are wrong about The Browns.
The deal breaker was The Browns wanted to keep the OC.
The guy they made HC.

Arizona offered Mike complete control, he turned them down.

Have no idea about The Jets .

McCarthy will have his pick of jobs next year.
Even his wife knew things weren't right 2 years ago.
Pretty sure his family talked him in to taking a year off

Mark Murphy has to know what was happening, if it's been going on since 2006, as the article states.
Sounds like Ted Thompson kept things rolling despite any internal problems until the last couple of years.

Mark Murphy screwed the whole organization when he decided to remove Ted and do nothing else.

Now that it didn't work out he has conveniently used Mike McCarthy as a scapegoat

Who's next if The Packers don't win?

Gutekunst? Lefleur?

Only time will give us the complete truth.
Until Murphy is removed, I don't see a bright future for The Packers.

Hope I'm wrong.
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#13
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Dunne doesn't write in Green Bay anymore, correct? Interesting it took someone no longer reliant upon access to the team. I guess that means it wasn't a leak?

Then again he apparently he got a key quote from a phone call between Aaron and Murphy.

Nagler says he can tell who some of these anonymous players are, because those players have said the same thing to him.



There wasn't much new in the article. He just pieced together a lot things that have been said before into one large write up while adding some.
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I agree with Rock, this article is at best 80% a Rodgers-Smear job. The guy starts off saying the article is based on interviews with dozens of former players, coaches and personnel guys. Then he goes on to quote Jennings and Finley over and over - two of the most outspoken Rodgers critics. Did the rest of the guys quotes not fit Dunne's theme? Or did he just exaggerate to gain some credibility?
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Should probably ignore this coward for putting his name on it!!

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#17
So who benefits from publishing of the article?

Let's start with who doesn't win:
  • Mike McCarthy
  • Aaron Rodgers
  • Ted Thompson
All have had their reputations sullied, their motivations and choices questioned.

Back to who wins:
  • Tyler Dunne
  • Whoever decided to clean house

Boys, perhaps you pay attention to who writes the stories more than I, but other than Bob McGinn, I really couldn't tell you who wrote what. The GB press coverage has traditionally been very supportive with little accountability. With this article, Dunne's name is being thrust into the national limelight, interviews on major sports outlets....he wins....its all about the clicks.

I am not saying he is lying, or exaggerating what his sources tell him, but I always question the motives of the discloser before buying the disclosure, whether its Tyler Dunne, Andrew Weissmann or Christopher Steele.

Which brings me to the other winner, Whoever decided to clean house.

Whether or not you believe facets of this article are true, it seems to me that this article sets the perfect tone for a fresh start.
  • To the new staff it says:
    • We have removed all pretense of loyalty to the last guy
    • We are giving you a fresh start
    • Don't get lazy
    • A shot across the bow has been fired at your star player, now its your job to keep him in line
  • To 12 its says:
    • Mea Culpa, we get it, but
    • If you care what people think about you, buckle down and cut the BS

I am looking forward to reading about OTA's, other player meetings, draft options, etc., and moving away from the past...Nevertheless

To be ignorant of the past is to be forever a child. - Cicero,
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As a side-note... I love how much mileage PFF is getting out of this story. I think I've seen about five articles so far.

I've read the entire article, but re-reading the last bit on PFF makes me wonder about two things.

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Dunne explains that, when CEO Mark Murphy called quarterback Aaron Rodgers to inform Rodgers that the new coach will be Matt LaFleur, Rodgers paused briefly before speaking. Eventually, Murphy had a message for his quarterback: “Don’t be the problem. Don’t be the problem.”

Citing the same unnamed source who shared that anecdote, Dunne reports that Murphy is “tired of the diva stuff” relating to Rodgers.



This is such a weird situation. This source is close to Murphy according to the story, so it doesn't come from Rodgers' side. That means there's three options.

1. There's someone sitting around who's listening in when Murphy makes calls. That person could've just as well not stayed anonymous, as this pretty much blows his cover in that case. And I'd hope that person would be without a job between now and tomorrow for being high-ranking enough to have this kind of responsibility, but running off to the media to put his own employees in a bad light.
2. Murphy goes around telling the most literal accounts of how his conversations on the phone with Rodgers go ("he paused, I said don't be the problem"😉. I can't imagine this is the case, but if so, I'm with buckeye and Mark needs to be out of a job ASAP.
3. It's BS in a way that the quote has been pulled completely out of context. Paper is always willing in this kinds of things. This could be an out of context snippet out of a pleasent conversation. I mean, even the moment of silence... I wouldn't know what to say directly when the big boss from my company called me and told me who was the new location manager.

Lastly, I love this line.

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And here’s an important non-development regarding the 12 hours or so since Dunne’s report landed. At a time when former coach Mike McCarthy has issued a strong (but perhaps far from dispositive) denial regarding the report that he regularly missed meetings for in-office massages, the Packers have said nothing at all in response to the various claims and contentions that cast Rodgers in a not-so-favorable light.



How on earth is this an important non-development? The Packers, as a whole, are expected to come out with some knee-jerk reaction the moment a beat-writer writes a scathing piece? I doubt I'd even engage in any of this if I where the Packers and just react when asked. There's no reason to make a statement at all.
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Based on this article and the claimed dysfunction, just imagine how awful teams like the Browns and Bills must be ran to not have success. Packers were this messed up and still in the playoffs and still reaching NFC Championship games and even won a Super Bowl?
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Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

As a side-note... I love how much mileage PFF is getting out of this story. I think I've seen about five articles so far.

I've read the entire article, but re-reading the last bit on PFF makes me wonder about two things.



This is such a weird situation. This source is close to Murphy according to the story, so it doesn't come from Rodgers' side. That means there's three options.

1. There's someone sitting around who's listening in when Murphy makes calls. That person could've just as well not stayed anonymous, as this pretty much blows his cover in that case. And I'd hope that person would be without a job between now and tomorrow for being high-ranking enough to have this kind of responsibility, but running off to the media to put his own employees in a bad light.
2. Murphy goes around telling the most literal accounts of how his conversations on the phone with Rodgers go ("he paused, I said don't be the problem"😉. I can't imagine this is the case, but if so, I'm with buckeye and Mark needs to be out of a job ASAP.
3. It's BS in a way that the quote has been pulled completely out of context. Paper is always willing in this kinds of things. This could be an out of context snippet out of a pleasent conversation. I mean, even the moment of silence... I wouldn't know what to say directly when the big boss from my company called me and told me who was the new location manager.

Lastly, I love this line.



How on earth is this an important non-development? The Packers, as a whole, are expected to come out with some knee-jerk reaction the moment a beat-writer writes a scathing piece? I doubt I'd even engage in any of this if I where the Packers and just react when asked. There's no reason to make a statement at all.



It's actually, PFT, not PFF 😛 But, yes, any bad press on the Packers, Vikings fan Mike Florio picks it up and runs like hell with it. Then will cite his own articles often times too. Annoying, but smart tactic for "clicks" lol.

The only way I would think someone knows what was said on that call is if they were in the room and the call was on speaker phone. Otherwise, the source would have to be Mark Murphy himself, unless Aaron Rodgers somehow spoke up?
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